Cathy Wheatley was seven months pregnant when she and her husband Keith lost their baby girl, Helen.
After experiencing this tragedy, Cathy's next pregnancy sadly resulted in a miscarriage.
But the couple decided to opt for surrogacy, and they are now the proud parents of twins.
Their story is featured in You, Me and Surrogacy, which airs on Virgin Media One tonight at 10pm.
Cathy and Keith joined us on The Last Word to share their surrogacy journey.
Listen to the interview in full by pressing the play button on this page.
