A brand new series of The X Factor begins tomorrow night, but with a twist.
The celebrity edition will see reality TV stars, actors, rugby players and even journalists hoping to impress judges Simon Cowell, Louis Walsh and Nicole Scherzinger with their singing skills.
But is this a new low? And does it prove that The X Factor has run out of steam?
Jennifer Gannon and Joe O'Shea discussed this in our weekly TV slot.
They also talked Succession, Brendan Gleeson's casting as Donald Trump in an upcoming drama, and who is in the running to present RTÉ's new Saturday night chat show.
Listen to the interview in full by pressing the play button on this page.