A group of independent TDs and MEPs say they'll campaign for a No vote in the Seanad referendum.
The group says the Seanad should be retained, so that it can be reformed and given a meaningful role in scrutinising laws.
It's also criticising Taoiseach Enda Kenny for deciding not to participate in a live TV debate on the subject.
Independent MEP Marian Harkin says the public should remember the role given to the Seanad after the Lisbon Treaty was passed:
Meanwhile independent TD Shane Ross says the Taoiseach's refusal to do a TV debate is particularly important:
